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	<title>Comments on: Design vs Creative Thinking</title>
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		<title>by: kip/bot/blog &#187; Posts worth looking at</title>
		<link>http://www.kipbot.com/blog/2009/05/14/design-vs-creative-thinking/#comment-88071</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 12:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] A revelation I had about the difference between design and creative (at least in interactive and marketing) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] A revelation I had about the difference between design and creative (at least in interactive and marketing) [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: kipbot</title>
		<link>http://www.kipbot.com/blog/2009/05/14/design-vs-creative-thinking/#comment-57475</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 16:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>David!  

I don't think the fox/hedgehog excludes ideas on either side, or creativity in general.  In the essay, Berlin points out that there are great creative geniuses in both camps.  Proust, Dante, Dostoevsky, and Plato are hedgehogs, while Shakespeare, Cervantes, Aristotle, and Pushkin are foxes.  (He also hastens to add that one shouldn't push the framework too far . . . 

I'm also using the term creatives, in a very industry specific fashion.  Designers and creatives are creative, but with different rhythms, emphases, starting points, goals, etc.</description>
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<p>I don&#8217;t think the fox/hedgehog excludes ideas on either side, or creativity in general.  In the essay, Berlin points out that there are great creative geniuses in both camps.  Proust, Dante, Dostoevsky, and Plato are hedgehogs, while Shakespeare, Cervantes, Aristotle, and Pushkin are foxes.  (He also hastens to add that one shouldn&#8217;t push the framework too far . . . </p>
<p>I&#8217;m also using the term creatives, in a very industry specific fashion.  Designers and creatives are creative, but with different rhythms, emphases, starting points, goals, etc.
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		<title>by: David DeCheser</title>
		<link>http://www.kipbot.com/blog/2009/05/14/design-vs-creative-thinking/#comment-57471</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 14:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Interesting view. Starts to break down a bit when you throw in things like: ideas an innovation. In your model above these would be more attributed to creatives. But think about innovative product design. Or an experience like staying at the Four Seasons where everyone addresses you by name -- surely the team that "designed" that experience was all about the details.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting view. Starts to break down a bit when you throw in things like: ideas an innovation. In your model above these would be more attributed to creatives. But think about innovative product design. Or an experience like staying at the Four Seasons where everyone addresses you by name &#8212; surely the team that &#8220;designed&#8221; that experience was all about the details.
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		<title>by: jose</title>
		<link>http://www.kipbot.com/blog/2009/05/14/design-vs-creative-thinking/#comment-56494</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 20:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I think one thing you left out is the attitude towards the new or the original. Some people enjoy just being creative, while others think it is more important to create something new, even if it means giving up what might currently give them joy. I think that's where the implementation part comes in -- implementation happens out of old news. Someone concerned with the new wants to go on with the next thing by the time the implementation phase comes in. Too little concern for the new and one's work becomes stale, too much concern for the new and one stops working.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think one thing you left out is the attitude towards the new or the original. Some people enjoy just being creative, while others think it is more important to create something new, even if it means giving up what might currently give them joy. I think that&#8217;s where the implementation part comes in &#8212; implementation happens out of old news. Someone concerned with the new wants to go on with the next thing by the time the implementation phase comes in. Too little concern for the new and one&#8217;s work becomes stale, too much concern for the new and one stops working.
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